7-8-11-13



Magen Avraham of Trisk and R’ Yissachar Dov from Belz

Magen Avraham of Trisk and R’ Yissachar Dov from Belz 200 1256 rhecht

The Magen Avraham holds that the chulyos need to start full after each double knot, as opposed to completing the previous Chulya broken off. In Belz, there was an argument between R’ Yissachar Dov from Belz and his son, the succeeding Belzer Rav, when they do the Chulyos, do they do it 3-3-1 and then…

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7-8-11-13 with 7 Chulyos – Rabbi Heschel Weiner’s Method

7-8-11-13 with 7 Chulyos – Rabbi Heschel Weiner’s Method 720 1280 rhecht

The Riva (ריב״א) variation of Rav Heschel Weiner (formerly Chicago today Ma’ale Adumim.) The variation keeps with today’s 7-8-11-13 by adding extra blue wraps on the first 3 and white on the fourth. 3 white – 4 techelet 3 white – 5 techelet 3 white – 8 techelet 13 white

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Tosafos 7-8-11-13 with 7 Chulyos (v2)

Tosafos 7-8-11-13 with 7 Chulyos (v2) 722 960 rhecht

An elegant variation of 7-8-11-13 with Tosafos ratio. Pure Tosafos mandates 7 Chulyos, yet there’s a Yesh Omrim at the end suggesting each Chulya can be more than 3 winds. This is done as follows: 3-4, 4-4, 5-6, 13. This method isn’t specified by anyone in particular but is an interesting interpretation plus one is…

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7-8-11-13 Belz / Slonim / Ger

7-8-11-13 Belz / Slonim / Ger 2448 3264 rhecht

This is similar in format to the Ben Ish Hai method, but without the “spine.” After each Chulya of three, the Shamash goes through each set of four strings to make a separation between one Chulya and the next. What we do to make it more even is we switch direction of the winds after…

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Ra’avad Style 7-8-11-13 Method with Double Knots

Ra’avad Style 7-8-11-13 Method with Double Knots 3024 4032 rhecht

From Ptil Tekhelet: This method defines a chulyah as between 7 and 13 twists. There are five (double) knots, with chulyot between them of twists that alternate between Tekhelet and white. The first and last twist of each chulyah is white. Additional comments: This is a method open to a lot of interpretation since Raavad…

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7-8-11-13 Sephardic Spine

7-8-11-13 Sephardic Spine 545 3289 rhecht

Rabbi Elyashiv Knohl – Rambam

Rabbi Elyashiv Knohl – Rambam 720 1280 rhecht

Rabbi Elyashiv Knohl wore (and R’ David Ben Zazon wears) 7-8-11-13 with Chabad Chulyot, the first 6 winds (two Chulyot) and last 3 winds being white. In R’ Ben Zazon’s words: אני קושר כמו השולחן ערוך גם את התכלת, כיוון שכך המנהג המקובל במאות השנים האחרונות, ולגבי התכלת אין רצף של מנהג… זה מה שהרב…

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Mystery Shitta – Raavad 7-8-11-13

Mystery Shitta – Raavad 7-8-11-13 720 960 rhecht

This is an interesting one. Raavad ratio, 7-8-11-13, holding like Rashi where the first three winds and last three winds per Chulya are white, but per in between each set of knots. The rest of the winds in the middle are Techeiles, which is 7 (-6) + 8 (-6) + 11 (-6) + 13 (-6).…

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Ra’avad 7-8-11-13 Method With White Chulya

Ra’avad 7-8-11-13 Method With White Chulya 70 389 rhecht

From Ptil Tekhelet: This method defines a chulyah as between 7 and 13 twists. There are five (double) knots, with chulyot between them of twists that alternate between Tekhelet and white. The first and last twist of each chulyah is white. Additional comments: This is a method open to a lot of interpretation since Raavad…

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7-8-11-13 with Alternating Chulyos

7-8-11-13 with Alternating Chulyos 720 960 rhecht

Received from someone who wishes to remain anonymous. To quote: Regarding pattern: The idea is to: (1) capture the nice symbolism R Aryeh Kaplan gives the Ashkenazi 7, 8, 11 and 13, the same groupings as the 39 melakhos; and as halachic argument So… You will see that the Ashkenazi implementation of the Sifra’s (correction:…

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