Common Questions and Answers

Tying Details

Money Issues

  • Does the tying method make much of a difference?
    Depends who you ask, but generally no. The bigger debate is on string ratio.

  • What other cost-saving options are there?
    One option is to go with Rambam ratio using Raavad strings, thereby making two sets. To quote R’ Avi Grossman: “… you can buy a set of four, full length, Raavad style strings, then cut each in half, and join those eight halves with ordinary strings, and then you’ll have enough techeleth for two garments!” Technically […]

  • Why are different Shittot different prices?
    It all depends on the amount and length of Techeiles strings. The more blue, the more expensive. It’s that simple. See the following chart (courtesy: Ptil Tekhelet store):

About Nipputz

  • Do you sell Nipputz strings?
    It would need to be a special order.

  • Techeiles Differences Between Ptil, Chabura, and Valles
    Q:
    1) Is Techeiles Chabura (chabureh?) Techeiles supposed to be lighter in shade than Ptil Tekhelet? I have a set which I bought last year and I noticed that the the color is much closer to sky blue, as opposed to my Tallis Gadol strings (Ptil Tekhelet) which are much closer to indigo colored. If it's not supposed to be lighter, does that mean my Techeiles is fading? Isn't there supposed to be a rule against that?
    2) Besides for Ptil Tekhelet and Chabura, I saw an ad for something call Techeiles Valles. Who are these people, and what is the source of their dye? I see that they carry an Eida HaChareidis hechsher, but their letter doesn't seem to cover the color, it just mentions the strings. Finally, do they sell these in Israel and how much do they cost?
    Thanks!
    A: a) The Techeiles Chabura (Toporovich) makes Techeiles from the same snails 🐌, though theirs is sourced from Greece (as opposed to Spain and Croatia where Ptil sources their dye from) and they supposedly do some different things, like using fresh snails and only using murex trunculus (whether or not Ptil also uses murex branderis isn’t certain, but at any rate murex snail based blue is kosher). Also, the fact that one group is more “Yeshivish” appeals to a certain crowd (though I personally never saw a snail with a black hat - though those exist in California [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexaplex_nigritus]).
    b) Valles is a name brand in Israel of Tzitzis wool that sells for more money. Their strings are supposedly much thicker and they supposedly do various Hiddurim that regular Tzitzis don’t have, hence the hechsher. The dye though with Valles is sourced by both Toporovich and Ptil (see screenshot). They sell them in Lakewood here (https://techeiles-shop.com/pages/strings) but since Toporovich is in Israel your best bet is to contact the Chabura for more info (https://www.techeiles.org/contact-us/). The above said, with the Chabura and Valles you need to do your own tying (lots of great options here https://bluefringes.com/string-tying-styles-2/) but Ptil does it as a packaged deal (https://store.tekhelet.com/?mobile=0), making them an ideal option. Hope this helps!

  • What exactly are Nipputz strings?
    Nipputz literally means carding wool by hand (as opposed to machine) and would be done Lishma. Due to the manual process the prices would be significantly more expensive than the prices for non-Nipputz strings. Some prefer Nipputz as it’s an extra hiddur. Should there be a demand for Nipputz strings down the road, extra consideration will be made to order some sets of those in the future. This is a video demonstrating how manual carding is done, but in addition Leshem Mitzvas Tzitzis is said while doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_fIc5lCuk&feature=emb_title

Radzyn Techeiles

  • Should I buy Radzyn over murex techeiles?
    While ultimately the choice is up to you, our recommendation is, unless you have a strong affinity to Radzyn/Breslov Chassidus and prefer the cuttlefish techeiles, to go with the murex one.

  • Then why on earth are you selling Radzyner Techeiles?
    Some Radzyner and Breslov Chassidim have approached us with requests to sell it. We therefore are making this option available.

  • What about Lifnei Iver Lo Titen Michshol (don’t place a stumbling block before a blind person)?
    It’s not Lifnei Iver if Radzyn techeiles is being sold as Radzyn techeiles. On this site it’s being made very clear what the differences between the two sets are.

  • What? That’s fake Tekhelet!
    It depends on how the Gemara is learned about the role of the Chilazon. The Radzyners don’t consider the Chilazon to necessarily “source” the color blue, just that the “blood” of the Chilazon is added to the mixture for reasons only Chazal can fathom, which render it kosher based on the Radzyner understanding, and based on that, any blue can be added to this mixture as long as this ink is in it. It’s a very different way of understanding a text that’s decidedly vague. This is a much deeper discussion which will BE”H be covered in a longer post in the future.

  • What’s the deal with Radzyn Techeiles? Why is it less expensive?
    Radzyn Techeiles is a fusion between cuttlefish ink with iron filings which are the source of the blue. Cuttlefish ink is much more plentiful than murex dye, with less fish needed for the same amount of Tzitzit strings.

Valles and Techeiles Chabura

  • Techeiles Differences Between Ptil, Chabura, and Valles
    Q:
    1) Is Techeiles Chabura (chabureh?) Techeiles supposed to be lighter in shade than Ptil Tekhelet? I have a set which I bought last year and I noticed that the the color is much closer to sky blue, as opposed to my Tallis Gadol strings (Ptil Tekhelet) which are much closer to indigo colored. If it's not supposed to be lighter, does that mean my Techeiles is fading? Isn't there supposed to be a rule against that?
    2) Besides for Ptil Tekhelet and Chabura, I saw an ad for something call Techeiles Valles. Who are these people, and what is the source of their dye? I see that they carry an Eida HaChareidis hechsher, but their letter doesn't seem to cover the color, it just mentions the strings. Finally, do they sell these in Israel and how much do they cost?
    Thanks!
    A: a) The Techeiles Chabura (Toporovich) makes Techeiles from the same snails 🐌, though theirs is sourced from Greece (as opposed to Spain and Croatia where Ptil sources their dye from) and they supposedly do some different things, like using fresh snails and only using murex trunculus (whether or not Ptil also uses murex branderis isn’t certain, but at any rate murex snail based blue is kosher). Also, the fact that one group is more “Yeshivish” appeals to a certain crowd (though I personally never saw a snail with a black hat - though those exist in California [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexaplex_nigritus]).
    b) Valles is a name brand in Israel of Tzitzis wool that sells for more money. Their strings are supposedly much thicker and they supposedly do various Hiddurim that regular Tzitzis don’t have, hence the hechsher. The dye though with Valles is sourced by both Toporovich and Ptil (see screenshot). They sell them in Lakewood here (https://techeiles-shop.com/pages/strings) but since Toporovich is in Israel your best bet is to contact the Chabura for more info (https://www.techeiles.org/contact-us/). The above said, with the Chabura and Valles you need to do your own tying (lots of great options here https://bluefringes.com/string-tying-styles-2/) but Ptil does it as a packaged deal (https://store.tekhelet.com/?mobile=0), making them an ideal option. Hope this helps!

  • What is Valles and why is there a Hechsher of Eida HaCharedis?
    Valles is a name brand in Israel of Tzitzis wool that sells for more money. Their strings are supposedly much thicker and they supposedly do various Hiddurim that regular Tzitzis don’t have, hence the hechsher. The dye though with Valles is sourced by both R’ Yechezkel Toporovich’s Chabura and Ptil.

  • Techeiles Differences Between Ptil, Chabura, and Valles
    Q:
    1) Is Techeiles Chabura (chabureh?) Techeiles supposed to be lighter in shade than Ptil Tekhelet? I have a set which I bought last year and I noticed that the the color is much closer to sky blue, as opposed to my Tallis Gadol strings (Ptil Tekhelet) which are much closer to indigo colored. If it's not supposed to be lighter, does that mean my Techeiles is fading? Isn't there supposed to be a rule against that?
    2) Besides for Ptil Tekhelet and Chabura, I saw an ad for something call Techeiles Valles. Who are these people, and what is the source of their dye? I see that they carry an Eida HaChareidis hechsher, but their letter doesn't seem to cover the color, it just mentions the strings. Finally, do they sell these in Israel and how much do they cost?
    Thanks!
    A: a) The Techeiles Chabura (Toporovich) makes Techeiles from the same snails 🐌, though theirs is sourced from Greece (as opposed to Spain and Croatia where Ptil sources their dye from) and they supposedly do some different things, like using fresh snails and only using murex trunculus (whether or not Ptil also uses murex branderis isn’t certain, but at any rate murex snail based blue is kosher). Also, the fact that one group is more “Yeshivish” appeals to a certain crowd (though I personally never saw a snail with a black hat - though those exist in California [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexaplex_nigritus]).
    b) Valles is a name brand in Israel of Tzitzis wool that sells for more money. Their strings are supposedly much thicker and they supposedly do various Hiddurim that regular Tzitzis don’t have, hence the hechsher. The dye though with Valles is sourced by both Toporovich and Ptil (see screenshot). They sell them in Lakewood here (https://techeiles-shop.com/pages/strings) but since Toporovich is in Israel your best bet is to contact the Chabura for more info (https://www.techeiles.org/contact-us/). The above said, with the Chabura and Valles you need to do your own tying (lots of great options here https://bluefringes.com/string-tying-styles-2/) but Ptil does it as a packaged deal (https://store.tekhelet.com/?mobile=0), making them an ideal option. Hope this helps!

  • What is Chabura Techeiles?
    The Techeiles Chabura (Toporovich) makes Techeiles from the same murex snails, though theirs is sourced from Greece (as opposed to Spain and Croatia where Ptil sources their dye from) and they supposedly do some different things, like using fresh snails and only using Murex Trunculus (whether or not Ptil Tekhelet also uses Murex Branderis isn’t certain, but at any rate Murex snail based blue is kosher). Also, the fact that one group is more “Yeshivish” appeals to a certain crowd (though we’ve personally never saw a snail with a black hat – however they exist in California https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexaplex_nigritus).

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